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Post by AxeMental on Aug 30, 2005 6:29:53 GMT -5
I have read about this in the past, but don't recall a satisfactory answer, so I'll bring it up again:
Did Gygax or anyone else 1E mention (perhaps in a Dragon) what languages are "typically" known by the various giant class types (orcs typically know x,y,z, goblins know w,x,y etc.)? Also, does anyone know if giants share a common giant language (if not what language would be one most would share?) Maybe something like the language list given for demi-humans. This of course, could be kept from the players (to prevent players from cherry picking new languages to learn). Although the ambiguity adds to more unique and varied assemblages of monsters in dungeons, it seems like some general languages (say 90% of giant class speak orc or goblin...all giants know x etc.) would be helpful for DMs trying to design, esp. for new DMs.
Perhaps the reason no universal giant class language or any other broad languages were included had more to do with limiting spells like charm mammal or charm monster (making the charm less effective if the MU doesn't know if they can even communicate with the beast). This clearly gives a richness to the game, but come on!
Anyhow, if anyoe has any house rules for this or knows anything 1E official let me know.
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Post by TheDungeonDelver on Aug 30, 2005 9:12:20 GMT -5
Here's the way I figure it: reverse engineer from what languages players know. A player can speak cloud giant, hill giant, etc. plus all other intelligent creature's languages. If you look at the list of at least low intelligence monsters, you've got the language list.
As to what creatures can speak what, I'd assign it according to two factors: monster's intelligence and monster's proximity. If you're creating a dungeon based on tribes of kobolds that have recently moved in to an abandoned city or keep in the deep wilderness, and have no slaves or other humanoid allies, then by and large they probably all only speak kobold. On the other hand, when you look at say B2 where there are bands of kobolds, goblins, hobgoblins, orcs and evil humans then they've probably either all adopted common or have learned each other's languages: the kobolds almost surely speak common and orcish, the orcs common, kobold, goblin, etc.
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